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Критика Kamavati

You don’t even care about character characterisation and using the same deadbeat joke about Parvati being Sakura and EMIYA being Shirou while Space Ishtar and Kama being your own OCs who are just looking like those characters.

I truly hаte your idiоtic comic.

Even youtube comments now parroting that stupid non-canon trash.

We may get some cute comics with space Ishtar and Kama, as they are two servants who are interested in the Master according to profile/materials, but thanks to you shi11ing out the sprite comics like you do not have anything to do, they are now associated with non canon delusions.

You’re literally took away my last joy in life. I am now considering going and drowning in a lake around my house. Thanks to you.

Мурамаса и кузница

___Where am I?

When I open my eyes, I see a strange scene. A field stretches as far as the eye can see, and in the midst of it we can see a number of houses, which seem to be made of wood. Perhaps this is some kind of village. The sky is not familiar, and the atmosphere is almost twilight.

There was no point in staying here for the moment, so I decided to go towards the village.

So we started walking. As we entered the village, we saw some people walking around. They must be the inhabitants of this village.

Excuse me, where am I? I seem to have lost my way.

I asked, but the villagers didn’t answer my question and went away.

(They ignored me…)

I was depressed to be ignored, but I couldn’t stay like this, so I decided to talk to other villagers.

After a few more attempts, the results were all the same. Then he realised something.

(Could it be that they can’t see me?).

In fact, if you think about it that way, it explains why they ignore you. So I decided to call out to him from the front, instead of from the side as I had done before.

The result was the same. In addition to the fact that there was no response when I spoke to him, he walked towards me like this and I almost bumped into him, but I reflexively avoided him.

(I knew it…).

Here, my doubts turned to certainty. Then I noticed something strange. When I took a closer look at the villagers, there was no sense of unity at all, it seemed that people of different races were living in the same village. Even the creatures that he thought were the same people had differently shaped ears, similar to those of what he called elves. There was also a wolf-like creature walking on two legs and a so-called dwarf creature that looked like something out of a fairy tale. Perhaps this is not the real world, but the world of dreams. I laughed at myself for being so young and so far from reality for what I dream about. If this is a dream, let’s enjoy it until we wake up. So I resumed my search. The village was larger than I had expected, and I got the impression that it was surprisingly well developed, with not only fields, but also restaurants, second-hand clothes shops and trading posts. We hadn’t seen all of the village yet, but we could see the hills outside the village and were curious about what lay beyond, so we decided to go there first. As we passed over the hill, we saw the sea, a magnificent natural scene. At the edge of this landscape we saw a house. I was curious as to why there was only one house in such a remote part of the village, so I decided to head towards it. When I arrived at the house, I tried to open the front door, but

(In the first place, the villagers in this world can’t see us, and it’s eerie to suddenly find the door open and no one there.)

But it was a dream, so there was no need to worry about it, but my conscience wouldn’t let me.

(But after all, if you’re doing this, it doesn’t make much difference…)

After much deliberation, I came to the conclusion that I should look in through the window. In the real world, I would definitely be a suspicious person, and I laughed at the contradiction of my earlier thought, but I checked inside. What was my conscience? In a word, the inside of the house was like a blacksmith shop, and you could see a variety of things, from very fine armour to ornaments. The fireplace was lit, but there was no sign of anyone inside. By the time we were ready to leave the house, it was almost dark. It was almost dark when we left the house, having spent a surprisingly long time admiring the beauty of the work. When we returned to the village, it was completely dark, there was no sign of anyone outside and all the villagers seemed to be in their houses. There were no street lights in the village and the only light was the moon and the light leaking from inside the houses. (Well, what should I do now?).

As I walked around the village, I was thinking about what to do, when I found a hut.

(Is this… a stable?).

I laughed at the idea of a horse in such a fantastic dream, but as I tried to walk past it, I heard a rustling sound inside. I wondered if there was something in there, if it was really a horse? I looked up in the darkness and saw what looked like a man inside. I couldn’t make out what it looked like in the dark. I wondered why it was here and not at home. As I was wondering this, I heard a voice sobbing.

"I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry.

The voice sounded familiar as it sobbed, apologizing for something. It was a very weak voice, and I had the impression that I might lose it at any moment.

"I’m sorry, I’m sorry… I’m sorry I didn’t meet your expectations.

During the day, the villagers were going about their business and everyone was lively. What the hell is going on? Why is this she the only one in this situation? She is the only girl who is being left out. Why couldn’t I have noticed this earlier? I know I’m dreaming, but I’m so angry at myself for not being able to do anything about it.

"I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry I’m such a disappointment.

…

I can’t stand to watch this. I’m not sure what to do, but I’m sure I’m not the only one.

Пятое анниверсари

On topic of Nasu’s constant hypocrisy in F/GO

• • The aftermath of 5th anniversary**

I am tired how Nasu’s words and promises directly contradicts with what we actually getting in the game.

The amount of pandering to mash in last time reached incredible amount. The 5th anniversary’s video narration, the dancing application (even the VR game from 2019 had also Artoria scenes, this one doesn’t have even Artoria, while her being on the icon of the Anniversary), second swimsuit costume. Other Servants getting nothing in terms of character involvement.

Why doesn’t Nasu want to actually introduce routes and allow the player to choose? Stay Night, Extra, Extella, every one of these games had actual routes and meaningful development between characters, while F/GO is one lacking it the most.

/u/citizenofRoma already [told the truth about it](https://reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/cgmwvb/pretty_much_sums_up_the_current_fgo_status/euiol99/) (and you see that there are decent number of people who agreed with him/her), it’s time to remind again:

• Dude, not even five minutes into the game and you have this creepy random looking at you sleeping. And then you’re suddenly forced to familiar terms with the crazy. Like dude, you don’t do that. And then you have her dragging down everything around you haut to be the center of attention.*

• Want to know more about Kid Gil? We’ll fuck you, the interlude is all about trash.*

• Mata is opening up about her problems, well here’s two lines where you have to lick the things boots.*

• Romani is out, well let’s have the player shit talk him and praise the meat shield.*

I don’t say that every character must be shipped with Main Character, obviously there are children Servants, already married Servants like Consort Yu and Tomoe, and characters like Jeanne, who are just not interested in this kind of relationships. However the fact, that those one who were introduced and hinted at by Nasu and other writers, never getting any development, and instead literal trash getting constantly shilled, is sad.

• • Nasu’s hypocrisy**

The story of Nasu’s hypocrisy is actually quite long. According to [one of his first interviews](https://oneofepisodes.wordpress.com/2016/04/18/fgo-tm-ace-042016/), he said that **"We’re planning to introduce more characters like that, so even if they weren’t able to reach a good ending before, in FGO I’ll write them as if I’m writing a condensed gal game heroine route for them. No one says this out loud, but it’s nice having everyone be happy, isn’t it? Good Smile."**

Ever since this interview, Nasu still likes to write characters who are interested in Main Character. Here the latest examples:

Charlotte Corday, who explicitly said that she loves the Main Character in Atlantis chapter, her character profile and Valentine’s scene. Including sacrificing her own life for the Main Character and having CG of her death scene.

Space Ishtar, who says that she will accompany the Main Character until the end, is fine with marriage, and has Bond CE about Guda going on adventures with her after supposed ending of Part 2 (notice that Guda doesn’t hesitate to immediately join her in that Bond CE story, so he/she is living alone and don’t have important responsibilities).

Kama, while not being expanded in the game itself, [according to materials](https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/comments/gfybzr/kamas_servant_profile_from_fgo_material_viii/):

• …However, in truth, she is extremely weak-willed.*

• She wants to be loved so all of her pessimism and negativity are ways to get attention.*

• She’s a cunning goddess who’d behave strangely like getting red in the face when pressed with a pushy attitude.*

• Because of this annoying «attribute of secretly wanting to be loved», she is a heavy goddess who’ll fully devote herself to the partner that opens his heart to her and will keep expecting things from him.*

• However, this mustn’t cause you to despair.*

• Kama wouldn’t even look at those she has no interest in to begin with.*

• Her gazing at the Master (as if they were a pig), are actually because of things such as admiration and expectations.*

• Just what kind of hopeless failure is this Master and how much will seeing their laughable and pitiful state entertain her?*

• How long will they stay by her side without coming to hate her?*

• Kama’s holding such hopes without being aware of it at all.

• If you were to patiently go along with this goddess' bad taste and insensitivity, one day, her good nature buried deep within all that wickedness would────

You might come in contact with the heart of a shy but sincere maiden slumbering within the young girl used as her vessel.*

Other character have hints in either profile, voice lines or materials, like Heroine X, Osakabehime, Okita (and Alter), Ereshkigal, Jeanne Alter.

However, these stories doesn’t reach any conclusion and the game story treats them as «never happen», which is, again, kinda bad. Why not release that dancing app with multiple Servants like Charlotte Corday, Space Ishtar, Kiyohime, Dantes and others? I would gladly buy that app specific currency to roll for more characters and their outfit, this feels like easy money for DW (they just need to make 3D model and record some voicelines). Let me dance with Ishtar and Kama, DW.

And I think that chances of getting character specific endings for FGO is pretty low, so Nasu’s big words about «everyone being happy» would just be a lie. Which is a Shame, since every other Fate game allowed the player to choose for route. At least, I hope that Guda will die in a heroic sacrifice, protecting the humankind (we got some forewshadowing for that in last Lostbelts), because he/she doesn’t deserve to suffer being shipped with Trash. I could imagine myself fighting for humanity because of Dr. Roman or someone like Ishtar being on my side, but with Trash around, I would just agree with Goetia instead, because this is truly a fate worse than death.

Why don’t these characters deserve a good ending too? It’s almost infinite multiverse, no way that’s Guda is the one who stuck with worst ending possible, while Shirou, Hakuno and Shiki (male one) got multiple choices of endings, it’s just too insignificant to be Quantum Time Lock. And Nasu himself foreshadowed the possibility of multiple romantic choices for Main Character, but those getting no development at all.

And which is worse, those characters were targeted by deadbeat jokes by one of the reddit users here, basically «see, the FSN characters, now clap, and I don’t care about their FGO characterisation, they are looking like FSN characters, hence they are».

• • Conclusion.**

I already predict that some of you would say, «but muh Guda isn’t self insert, you see they do care about Dr. Roman in Olympus, it’s so full of character», but this is again Nasu’s hypocritical bullshit. If Guda isn’t self-insert, what is the purpose of making him/her bland character without canon name, gender or birthdate? The game itself gives you an option to choose any name for Master, to choose birthday and the Servants in story uses that name.

The 5th anniversary’s video uses «you» instead of «Guda»/«Ritsuka Fujimaru». And I felt incredible cringe while watching because, while the visauls are really well animated and the Crypters moment was great, the narration was targeted at «me»/the one who watches it, but was disconnected from how I do feel. «I, Trash Kirilight, will walk with you», while it’s least desirable person I want to see around me (honestly, I would choose Prelati as my companion over her). I had already of toxic relationships in real life, why is Nasu forcing toxic relationships with Marisbury’s biggest mistake on me in video game, which is supposed to make the player feel good? Why don’t allow me to at least choose out of my Servants atfer all that baiting in interviews and materials?

Anyway, it’s very d1ck move, to make the Main Character the player’s avatar (according to Nasu’s interview), use the name provided by the player, and than to ship basically the player with unsightly and unattractive character, it makes me cringe every time. I wish unsung hero Beryl got rid of her back in the past when Marisbury was alive, and I would unironically clap if she will be tortured or suffer in further main story, because she deserves it.

In the very first interview being mentioned there Nasu said: **"I think it’s a huge thing for me that all the fans who have loved TYPE-MOON over these 15 years are also enjoying FGO".** And you have to look at any old Type-Moon forum to see that’s not the case. Obviously, because F/GO is so huge quality drop from Stay Night, Extra/CCC and Extella, so most of players now are the ones who started from F/GO, and old players mostly follow the story of Crypters and Animusphere without caring for Main Character anymore.

• • Conclusion (2).**

[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55LdPH9pEFI) my Chaldea [go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfHUxcTiQqc). I just purchased and wasted 8 big packs of SQ on actual banner. Cannot bring myself to burn Merlin and Hans though.

I would prefer it to be a discussion rather than just laughing at me, however do what you want. What’s even a purpose of making the MC of the game the players’s avatar without defined gender, name and birthdate, if the player doesn’t have choice? What’s the purpose of telling people that you want every character to be able to reach happy ending, if you don’t actually going to write those endings for characters.

I was cuсked (in the original meaning of the word) in the real life for a few times, now I am also getting cuсked in a video game, which is supposed to be fun and bring joy, just because Nasu’s strange writing and abandoning principles that he used in his previous works. He could at least make the MC defined character like Kiritsugu or Wodime, and let us enjoy the story without «avatar» being involved.

I just want to see the routes/ending for Ishtar and Kama, but going with latest direction, we will never see.

Самые злые персонажи Фейта

The most evil characters of Fate

Which characters are the most villainous and hideous, without any positive qualities? My personal top:

1. Primate Murder - has whole authority about killing humans, is a hisdeous monster, purpose of life is to kill humans. 2. Zepia Eltnam Oberon - Dead Apostle, creator of world ending weapons, lives to become invulnerable monster and drink everyone's blood. 3. Xiang Yu - inventor or war crime concept, murdered thousand of people who were civilians or already surrendered. 4. Beryl Gut - traitor, murdered Kirschtaria Wodime, who trusted him, only interested in killing people, possible werewolf. 5. Marisbury Animusphere - see Serpahinx manga for details. 6. Makiri Zouken - raped his own granddaughter, tortured her to achieve true magic. 7. Kotomine Kirei - his whole life is to do something evil and get pleasure from it. 8. Goetia - hates humanity and his own creator out of some petty issue. 9. Roa - lives only to bring misery to others, also cheats Akasha. 10. Twice Pieceman - wanted to bring eternal war on Earth for some weird experiment.

What are your top of most evil and hideous characters?

People just don't like Nasu direction and hates everything about the game, so they do complain about wrong protagonist in the adaptations etc.

Like how Nasu constantly cuсks us out of interesting characters like Hinako (being shipped with hideous horse for no reason) or Altrouge (being shipped with Primate Murder, I hope at least we will kill him in LB6 for good in Beast form).

Literally all Nasu produces now is bland and boring. No female character have surpassed Arcueid, and it was 20 years ago.

Шестой потерянный пояс и фетиши Насу

I’ve completed Lostbelt 6 yesterday and want to talk about it somewhere. The weirdest thing about this Lostbelt is how it is being used to promote Nasu’s fetishes.

First, the Artoria and Muramasa storyline, which unravels Nasu’s blatant lie. Some years ago Nasu told his fanbase that Saber will never get a storyline in FGO, because «her story is over». He actually followed this modus operandi for some time, and allowed different Artoria versions to be their own character. Now, with Lostbelt 6, he abandoned that ideals to reuse the same weird Fate route inside of different medium and with different characters, which makes it complete joke instead of good story. Muramasa is 70+ year old man, a blacksmith, meanwhile he is being paired with Artoria for no reason in the chapter. You may think it was perfect opportunity to make actual good story with the FGO protagonist and Artoria, who is main character of the chapter, which would make a much more sense and be actually interesting, but instead Nasu pair her with old man and pretends that it is fine. As a result, the fanart is already poisoned by the clappers, who don’t even care about actual Muramasa (who had decent characterisation in Shimousa) and Artoria (Fairy). There is no reason for Muramasa to even appear on our side in LB6 (we are enemies of Alien God), he is there as part of our group just because he wants to «remind» the readers of story which has been «ended» long ago (according to his own words).

Second, it is the way that he writes certain female characters (as a female myself, I feel it is important). We don’t have proper female villains, Olga is being flanderised, presented as a clown and Servant Universe tier villain (and it’s the long awaited Beast of the End, the final Evil of Humanity). It’s not even just my opinion, since there are some sites which cites my opinion. Then we have Morgan, who was supposed to be the evil monster of Nasuverse, who abused Artoria, did a bunch of atrocities and Nasu just cancelled her whole character to appeal to people who want to have her summonable (since, no one would really like pan-history Morgan as person/«waifu»). She was flanderised, get a random weird characterisation like being afraid of caterpillars. You can read more [URL="https://thessaliah.tumblr.com/post/654390156901679104/unit-zero-two-content-warning-discussion-of"]there[/URL]. And this happens to most of female characters, that Nasu writes, notable also Kiara, Koyanskaya.

I feel like LB6 is the end of Nasu’s reign and the «cult» which does indeed exists around his works. :nasu:

Melt boobs

NA Spoilers here.

Today I finally managed to beat Beast III/R (she critted support Waver to death on turn 4 and then killed my team with NP after using Charm on David, had to spend quartz to resurrect twice) and complete the story. I want to talk about Meltryllis' character, I didn’t found a single discussion about her differences from human as AlterEgo uncommon sentient lunar existence.

First question is, is it actually possible to be true love between protagonist and Melt?

The problem is lack of assurance in Meltryllis' chest area.

Gudao made it clear: he fights for humanity and boobs (in his dialogue with servants after Passionlip fight, he admits, that his true reason to save Passionlip is her huge boobs — with heavy emphasis on word huge). It lasts from Babylonia, where first thing he noticed about Ishtar, was lack of chest. Then he was depressed for part of singularity but got highly motivated after seeing Gorgon and then his win streak continued right upon Tiamat.

(Please, do not joke about «fighting for boobs», just because it sounds funny, but it is fact from the Babylonia and CCC event)

What will Gudao think after looking at BB and her generous chest and comparing the two? And I do not think he is aware of ballet to think that BB created Melt with this body to be a ballerina. Image of bonkers will haunt his mind.

Second question, I got that Meltryllis changed since her original game and do not looking for love as one-sided anymore, but what is love with her looks like? Her sense of touch is completely absent (opposite to Passionlip, who oversensitive). She cannot feel anything.

You cannot cuddle with her of hug her, technically you can, but she will not feel anything and I think will not even understand what is happening. Her hands are non-functional and covered all the time, so she cannot touch master too, even relying on eyes rather than hands.

Basically being in love with her is letting her to fight enemies, believing in her performance and praising her?